November 24, 2003
You forgot one:
~God wants to save everyone, but he doesn’t, despite the fact it is in his power. Why is something of a mystery.
Phil: To say that God desires all men to be saved, but that he chooses to withhold salvation from some, is simply to say that he desires A and not A. The two statements are complete contradictions; you have God basically doing something contrary to his will. You also seem to be unfamiliar with the Dutch Reformed and supralapsarianism, which quite emphatically affirms that God created man with the specific intent of causing the damnation of the majority of them. I’ve also never heard a Calvinist say that the unsaved resist the Holy Spirit. Also, if the atonement isn’t universal, but grace is, then you essentially have grace of God outside of Christ, which is nowhere supported in Scripture.
Alex: What do you make of Stephen’s charge to the Pharisees? Were they only ignoring the “outward call?” Is there an “inward Holy Spirit” and an “outward Holy Spirit?” For what its worth, there’s no distinction between “inward” and “outward” grace in Lutheran theology, since the Bible never really speaks of two kinds of grace, one which can be resisted, and one which can’t. There’s just “grace.”
Bill: No man can choose to “lower” or “not resist.” According to the Formula of Concord, man’s “non-resistance” is not a cause of his conversion or election. Basically, God overcomes man’s natural resistance in the elect, but not in the reprobate. Every Calvinist I know would say that’s because he doesn’t even try in the case of the reprobate, since his grace is irresistable. The Lutheran leaves it a mystery. And if you’re going to call the sacraments acts of obedience, then faith is an act of obedience as well. Galatians 3:27 mentions baptism and grace in the same sentence. Or do you not believe that being clothed with Christ is the essence of grace?
Michael: Luther rejected the authority of the papacy, the temporal power of bishops, the system of seven sacraments, merit, indulgences, purgatory, and free-will. He was a pretty bad Catholic.












