So you’re user, dealer AND supplier. Greeeaaat.

Re. Ascol’s post on what the SBC thinks of Calvin’s final destination. The author he quotes who, to put it mildly, seriously questions Calvin’s salvation, I have found to be the norm among SBC laity. John 3 (“Whosoever believes…”) and John 6 (“Whosoever comes to me…”) are invariably put forth as calvinism defeaters that are irresolvable in the Dordtian system of theology. End of argument. End of discussion.

Attempts to quote Romans are shut down with: “I don’t know what Paul was on about, but I can understand Jesus plainly enough.” They are generally comfortable with a certain level of agnosticism about the New Testament other than the gospels (or at least John). Yes, Jesus talks about gathering all those that the Father has given him, but he isn’t explicit about that ordo salutis like Paul is.